Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Book4: Warren's 15% rule.

Reference: "How to pick stocks like Warren Buffett" chapter-12.

Warren is interested only in those stocks where he expects 15% or above return in long (say 10Y) period. This is how he isolates the attractive equities....

For instance if you are looking for IBM stock on 8/1/2008 then you would need following information.

  • What is the avg P/E ratio ? Let's say it is=15.11
  • What is the Earning ? Let's say it is = $8.11
  • What is the Earning growth rate ? Let's say it is: 11.21% (reference).
  • What is the price today (8/01/2008) ? Let's say it is: $128.00
  • What is the dividend (if any) rate ? Let's say for IBM it is 25% of the Earning.

So at this rate, in next 10Y the earning will grow to (using TVM formula) $23.47/year. That makes dividend=$5.87. So total earning = 23.47 + 5.87 = $29.34.

So at current P/E rate the price of the IBM stock will be = (P/E) * (Earning) = 15.11 * 29.34 = $443.29.

On the other hand, for stock to return 15% return on your investment of $128, we need to have (using TVM formula) $ 517.83. So, we have a big gap between what is expected ($517.83) and what can be achieved ($443.29).

If we are going to get $443.29 price after 10Y then to get 15% return the expected price should be: $109.57 (on 8/1/2008). This value will compensate investor from inflation, tax, commission and risk-free return.



Let's take the example of AXP (American Express)...

  • 8/1/2008 price: $36.73
  • P/E = 12.17
  • Earning = $3.02
  • Earning growth rate = 12.5%
  • Dividend = ~24%

So, after 10Y earning = $9.80 and 10Y dividend=$2.35. Total E=9.80+2.35=$12.15.
So, at current P/E rate, after 10Y the price would be = (P/E) * E = 12.17 * 12.15 = $147.87

Now, at the current price and 15% expected return the 10Y price should be=$148.59. Ideally speaking, to get 15% return today the AXP should be priced at $36.7292, almost what is it right now. Assuming that all above assumptions hold true any price below $36.73 will be attractive to get 15% return.

However, financial market is going through some tough time so probably this price might not compensate for any upward risk in credit market.

There will be more blogs on the topics related to Warren's investment philosophy. So keeping watching.